**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 18 16:29:55 2019 Feb 18 16:29:55 * Now talking on #webkit Feb 18 16:29:55 * Topic for #webkit is: The WebKit Open Source Project | https://webkit.org Feb 18 16:29:55 * Topic for #webkit set by xenon!~timothy@developer/colloquy/xenon (Fri Jan 11 20:24:39 2019) Feb 18 16:33:42 * WKR has quit (Quit: Bye, cruel world!) Feb 18 16:34:21 * WKR (~WKR@107.161.25.4) has joined Feb 18 16:37:51 Hello! I have a question regarding WPE/WebKit for embedded. I am bit confused by the Igalia/Metrological division. Is "WebPlatformForEmbedded/WPEWebKit" the same as the official WPE Webkit? If I go with the Igalia one, I am also uncertain on whether I should go with the Yocto meta-webkit package or the Buildroot overlay. It seems that Buildroot is generally a simpler solution, but the overlay hasn't been updated for several months, while Feb 18 16:37:51 meta-webkit does reference the latest releases. I am using WPE on Raspberry Pi as an interface to a robot. Thank you! Feb 18 16:37:52 * aakashjain (~aakashjai@modemcable075.205-160-184.mc.videotron.ca) has joined Feb 18 16:50:33 * webkitbot has quit (Quit: Bye, cruel world!) Feb 18 16:50:48 * webkitbot (~webkitbot@107.161.24.35) has joined Feb 18 16:55:56 Avnerus: Hi there! I work in Igalia in the WPE team. If it works well for you, I would recommend using upstream WebKit. Feb 18 16:57:07 Metrological is a partner of us who make use of WPE as well; there's a fork of WPE WebKit that has a few changes with regard to the official repository Feb 18 16:58:35 The main differences at the moment is that the fork at https://github.com/WebPlatformForEmbedded/WPEWebKit has some some fixes for video playback on certain exotic embedded hardware and EME support Feb 18 16:59:15 We're slowly making the difference between both smaller as time goes by :) Feb 18 16:59:31 regarding Yocto vs. Buildroot, it's a matter of preference Feb 18 17:00:07 * aakashjain has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) Feb 18 17:00:16 The Buildroot overlay is being partially phased out because I've working with the Buildroot people to have WPE packages in the official repo Feb 18 17:00:33 * quequotion has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) Feb 18 17:01:19 as a matter of fact, Buildroot's “next“ branch already has packages: https://git.busybox.net/buildroot/tree/package/wpewebkit?h=next Feb 18 17:02:19 Avnerus: for your use case (RPi, interface to a robot) my *guess* is that you won't be doing multimedia (audio/video) so it's probably better to stick with the official releases Feb 18 17:02:48 and again, Yocto vs. Buildroot is more or less a matter of preference Feb 18 17:02:59 (personally I find Buildroot's simplicity appealing) Feb 18 17:06:33 Avnerus: I hope the notes above help out to clarify things a bit ^^ Feb 18 17:07:05 if you have any more doubts, please do ask :-) Feb 18 17:07:50 * WKR has quit (Quit: Bye, cruel world!) Feb 18 17:08:30 * WKR (~WKR@107.161.25.4) has joined Feb 18 17:09:18 Hi aperezdc! Thanks so much for this elaborate reply. Regarding the use for the robot, I do actually require playing YouTube and also displaying a simple 2D game on canvas, hopefully WebGL accelerated. I also like Buildroot's simplicity I was just worried that it's not getting updates from the upstream WPE. But now I understand it's coming to the official Buildroot which is great! So perhaps my only question is, if I want to start from fresh Feb 18 17:09:18 (previously I used the metrological buildroot fork), should I go with the standard stable buildroot and perhaps just adding the package from 'next'? Feb 18 17:12:08 Avnerus: Playing normal YouTube videos (not DRM protected) will work with the official packages, without needing to build from the WebPlatformForEmbedded repo. Feb 18 17:12:15 Canvas works fine, too Feb 18 17:12:48 But note that canvas != WebGL Feb 18 17:14:00 There's an ENABLE_ACCELERATED_2D_CANVAS build option which is disabled by default because whether it works or not varies wildly between platforms... Feb 18 17:14:21 I have not tried it myself on the RPi, but works on desktop with Mesa on an Intel GPU, for example Feb 18 17:14:32 You might want to try Feb 18 17:15:10 Adding the wpewebkit packages from “next” is probably what I would do myself, yes Feb 18 17:15:24 note that we still don't have the wpebackend-rdk package in the “next” branch of Buildroot Feb 18 17:15:44 (the wpebackend-fdo is there already) Feb 18 17:19:49 Avnerus: I have just filed this issue to update the overlay: https://github.com/Igalia/buildroot-wpe/issues/9 Feb 18 17:19:55 Ah yes I have seen the note I think on meta-webkit regarding the 2D acceleration. I was thinking of using Pixi.JS which has a WebGL renderer, so I think that should work? Feb 18 17:19:57 I'll try and get to it in the next days Feb 18 17:20:56 Regarding rdk I see, so I guess I should get that package from Igalia/buildroot-wpe Feb 18 17:21:15 Great to see this project being so active! Feb 18 17:21:47 Avnerus: yep, WebGL is always accelerated, regardless of the ENABLE_ACCELERATED_2D_CANVAS setting Feb 18 17:25:35 OK that's great. Thanks again for all of the help. I was mainly confused because of the naming similarities of Metrological and Igalia's repos and websites. Both seem to represent the 'official' WPE. Feb 18 17:31:17 mmh, probably we should try and make things a bit clearer, sorry about the confusion O:-) Feb 18 17:31:57 * fredw (~Thunderbi@mar75-2-81-56-69-222.fbx.proxad.net) has joined Feb 18 17:35:40 No worries! Glad I was able to catch you here. I'll report later if I find any issues or if I have new questions. Feb 18 17:40:51 * webkitbot has quit (Quit: Bye, cruel world!) 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